Wednesday, February 2, 2011

Another Tory rebellion (Not!) (Reprise)

There has been a great deal written on the subject of Mr Peter Bone's Amendment to the European Union Bill, which was voted on yesterday in the House of Commons. The Boss added his own inimitable comments on EUReferendum. Others to sigh over the non-performance of the so-called Tory eurosceptics was Mr Hannan, who is reclaiming his position as the pre-eminent eurosceptic after the misjudgement over his and Mr Carswell's call for the abolition of Better Off Out. (Yes, since you ask, the eurosceptic sheeple is once again embracing those two as their spokespersons.)

Now then. Here is the amendment and the debate around it though you do have to scroll down to find the beginning.
New Clause 11


PROVISION FOR FURTHER REFERENDUM

'In order to meet the referendum condition referred to in section 2, section 3 and section 6 of this Act, the Act providing for the approval of-

(a) a treaty under the terms of section 2; or

(b) a decision under the terms of section 3; or

(c) a decision or draft decision under section 6

shall also provide for a further binding referendum to be held on continuing United Kingdom membership of the European Union, if the majority of those voting in a referendum held under the terms of the relevant section are opposed to the ratification of the treaty, decision or draft decision, as the case may be.'.- (Mr Bone.)
Mr Bone spoke to the subject immediately after Ms Patel pontificating and expressed his hope that the young lady would join him in the Division Lobby. Alas, that hope was not fulfilled. Ms Patel, as ever, decided that discretion or, perhaps, outright cowardice was the better part of valour and voted with the government. That young lady should go far. She seems to be as good as Mr Hannan at running with the hares and hunting with the hounds and as Mr Hannan's shine rubs off, as it is rubbing off despite the eurosceptic sheeple, we may hear a great deal more about Ms Patel who will talk the talk but will not walk the walk.

So who did vote for the amendment? Well here is the list though, once again, you have to scroll down.

AYES


Baker, Steve
Baron, Mr John
Bone, Mr Peter
Bridgen, Andrew
Campbell, Mr Gregory
Carswell, Mr Douglas
Cash, Mr William
Chope, Mr Christopher
Clappison, Mr James
Drax, Richard
Goldsmith, Zac
Henderson, Gordon
Hoey, Kate
Howarth, rh Mr George
Jenkin, Mr Bernard
Lewis, Dr Julian
Main, Mrs Anne
McCrea, Dr William
Nuttall, Mr David
Percy, Andrew
Shannon, Jim
Shepherd, Mr Richard
Simpson, David
Skinner, Mr Dennis
Turner, Mr Andrew
Vaz, rh Keith

Tellers for the Ayes:

Mr Philip Hollobone and
Mark Reckless

I suppose people might like to ask their MPs why they didn't vote for this amendment, particularly if those MPs campaigned on a supposedly eurosceptic platform.

ADDENDUM: Interesting postings by Witterings from Witney on the subject here and here.

8 comments:

  1. Well Helen, we are perhaps singing from the same hymn sheet?

    http://witteringwitney.blogspot.com/2011/02/weird-and-disgraceful.html

    http://witteringwitney.blogspot.com/2011/02/trouble-is-there-is-no-meat-on-bone.html

    Understandably, you may or may not agree with my 'comments'.

    Respecting your writing, I would value your comments too.

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  2. Thanks for that Wittering (if I may call you that). I shall read your postings. There may be nothing for me to comment.

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  3. Not disagreeing. It's not so much that Carswell & Hannan, etc. aren't honest about their intentions. It's just that when all they can get is a couple of dozen votes or so for EUrosceptic bills there has to come a point when they should admit they're just banging their heads against a wall and try something more drastic.

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  4. Well, Hannan can't actually get anything as he is over in the Toy Parliament. I expect that was their thinking, too, when they suggested winding up the parliamentary BOO but yet another referendum campaign is an even bigger waste of time. What sort of more drastic do you suggest AKM? Remember that, unlike in Egypt, we have free and fair elections and those ninnies in the Commons were elected by the people of this country. Ever fewer people, that is true, but by not voting one acquiesces in the others' choice. That, too, is voting.

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  5. I agree with Richard, it's time for the Conservative Party to split: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/12/who-cares-wins.html

    We're not capable of open revolt at this time, and even if we were I wouldn't suggest it was led by a member of one of the established parties.

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  6. Possibly, but the Conservative Party is not, at this stage listening. What makes you think a revolt in the streets is a good idea? Have you actually been watching what is going on in Cairo really? Have you thought of what the outcome is likely to be?

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  7. Possibly, but the Conservative Party is not, at this stage listening. What makes you think a revolt in the streets is a good idea? Have you actually been watching what is going on in Cairo really? Have you thought of what the outcome is likely to be?

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  8. It's not a good idea at all, it's an extremely bad idea. That's why I think that splitting the Conservative party is the best way forward. If we can't get some representation then revolt of some sort becomes the only choice, however bad an idea it is.

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